Fu Yude, Vice President of EDF: Taishan Nuclear Power is a benchmark project for Sino-French cooperation

In November 2016, Fu Yude took the position of the new French Power Group (hereinafter referred to as 'Fadian') in China. Although he has nearly 30 years of working experience in the power industry, he still dares not to slack off in the face of the Chinese market. The new mission of low-carbon energy services has also made him more busy. He is not visiting high-level power companies in China, but is on his way to the site.

Recently, Fu Yande emphasized in an exclusive interview with this reporter that clean energy is the focus of Sino-French energy cooperation in the future. It is expected to establish a bridge between Chinese and French culture through cooperation between China Power and China Power Corporation.

Building long-term, mutual trust partnerships

China Energy News: Since the cooperation in building China's first commercial nuclear power plant, Sino-French nuclear power cooperation has a history of more than 30 years. What experiences are worth sharing and learning from?

Fu Yude: EDF is a power operator with more than 70 years of experience in development, construction and management. It has certain competitiveness in nuclear power, hydropower, thermal power and new energy generation, in addition to traditional transmission, transmission, distribution and business. Covers power sales, energy efficiency management and energy trade.

In the past 40 years of China's reform and opening up, the economy has developed rapidly, the power industry has undergone tremendous changes, and its comprehensive strength has been continuously enhanced. French power is both a partner of China and a witness to the development of China's power industry. In particular, the rise of China's nuclear power industry in recent years is not only in engineering. The technology level has been continuously upgraded, and the independent innovation capability has been recognized by the industry. At the same time, the nuclear power safety level has also been continuously improved. China is about to take the lead in the operation of the European Advanced Pressurized Water Reactor (EPR) unit. This is the representative third-generation nuclear power. The unit has higher safety.

The long-term cooperation between the two parties is mainly based on the consensus of the four parties. First, the willingness to always innovate. The company has created a number of firsts in China: the first to build a Daya Bay nuclear power plant with Chinese partners; the first to adopt BOT (construction through international bidding) Operation and handover of the power station built and operated by the company - Guangxi Laibin B thermal power plant; Taishan Nuclear Power Plant Unit 1 will become the world's first EPR unit to be put into operation. In addition, in the field of energy services, France and France as the first and local governments A foreign enterprise that signs a franchise contract in the area of ‚Äč‚Äčcentralized cooling for the area, and undertakes the cooling project for the Sanya district in Hainan.

Secondly, in the past 30 years, through continuous cooperation, practice and integration, the two sides have gradually formed a common, long-term and more lasting willingness to cooperate. Third, in 30 years, society and the environment have undergone tremendous changes, the two sides have previously cooperated. The focus is on the Chinese market. Now it is facing the international market and paying attention to the development of third-party markets. Fourth, mutual benefit. As a long-term partner, it is definitely a long-term plan, which requires mutual benefit and win-win.

Complementary advantages make cooperation closer

China Energy News: In recent years, nuclear power has also become a business card for China to go global. China and France have begun to join hands in the international market. From the initial 'instructor' to today's partnership, you think China's nuclear power industry's development level How? What is the difference in the development of the nuclear power industry between China and France? How do the two sides complement each other?

Fu Yude: There are three milestones in the cooperation between France and China. The first is the Daya Bay project built 30 years ago; the second is the Taishan project, the first unit will be put into commercial operation this year; the third is the two sides in the southwest of the UK. The cooperation of the Hinckley Point C nuclear power plant project. France Power is currently the world's largest nuclear power operator, and China has the world's largest nuclear power plant under construction, which is the largest nuclear power development market, which is the balance of cooperation between the two sides.

China's nuclear power industry has already possessed unique professionalism and gradually changed from large to strong. The successful commissioning of Taishan nuclear power project is the best proof of China's nuclear power industry capability, not only reflects the overall supply chain capability of China's nuclear power industry, but also reflects its participation. Efficient construction of enterprises. Many Chinese companies have participated in the construction, indicating that they have the ability to build third-generation nuclear power plants efficiently. China's nuclear power supply chain enterprises can provide high-quality, high-cost and low-cost services.

In addition, Chinese companies are also very strong in ensuring the smooth progress of large-scale project projects, especially in controlling the project duration and cost. Of course, the development environment of China and France is different, and the nuclear power industry is different, but this is more helpful. For example, the French nuclear power units were mostly built 15 years ago, and China has built three or four new units each year. The experience of these new units has a very important reference for the French nuclear power industry.

Moreover, the different products and technologies of France Power and China's nuclear power industry are also complementary. For example, France has very good EPR technology, mainly building high-power nuclear power units, while China's Hualong No. 1 technology is building medium-sized power nuclear power units. This is complementary and can meet the needs of different power markets.

China Energy News: What impact do you think this complementary advantage has on the future cooperation between the two parties?

Fu Yude: The relationship between China and France is advancing with the times, and it is hoped that it will continue to develop for a long time. Whether it is China or an international market outside China, the cooperation between the two sides is very important. French power needs Chinese partners to explore the Chinese market. Meanwhile, China Enterprises also need the resources and strength of France to help develop the international market. The Taishan nuclear power project is a benchmark project for cooperation between the two parties. At present, Unit 1 has obtained the permission of China National Nuclear Safety Administration and completed the loading, successfully connected to the grid for power generation. Take a key step in transportation.

The complementary advantages of both parties have also been recognized in international projects. The Xincle Point C nuclear power plant project in cooperation with China Guangdong Nuclear Power Co., Ltd. is progressing smoothly. All construction work will start in 2019. We expect to have more nuclear power with China. Enterprises, maintain complementarity, and jointly develop new development opportunities.

China is the strategic focus of the development of the French Power International

China Energy News: What do you think China is currently advancing power system reform? What impact does it have on China-France cooperation?

Fu Yude: The purpose of the reform must be to make the market more open. The opening of China's electricity market is very similar to the opening of the electricity market in Europe more than 20 years ago. The experience of opening up the electricity market in Europe is also a reference for China.

At the same time, the reform has brought important opportunities for cooperation. First, the opening of the electricity sales market has enabled foreign companies to participate in direct trading in the electricity market. Second, the opening of the new distribution grid market has provided us with the possibility of expanding new projects. .

Of course, reform is a systematic and long-term process. It is necessary to find a balance point. This is crucial to the success of the reform. Now, the reforms convey more signals of short-term market opening, including some fluctuations in electricity prices. In the long run, however, reforms need to be open to the market for a long time. While stimulating the enthusiasm of market participants, they can guide them to do some long-term planning, which is more conducive to the long-term sustainable development of China's electricity market.

China Energy News: What proportion of the Chinese market is in the legal power business structure? What strategic planning does the future of the French power market have in the Chinese market? Will there be any new changes in the cooperation between the two sides?

Fu Yude: International business outside Europe accounts for 5% of the total business of the French Power Group. According to the plan, this ratio will be tripled by 2030. The company is working hard to increase the international market share outside the European market. China is the focus of the development of the French power industry. Clean energy has become the trend of development in all countries of the world. China is also actively adjusting its energy structure. Cleanliness will be an important direction for cooperation between the two sides. The company will be committed to developing innovative, low-carbon, economical energy solutions that will help China. The energy transformation mainly includes three aspects:

First, to create low-carbon energy services for customers. For example, the electric heating distribution network project operated by China Power and China Datang Group in Henan Province, through the waste heat recovery of thermal power plants, has been successfully put into operation in 2016. In 2020, the heating area will be expanded to 12 million square meters.

Second, strengthen cooperation in renewable energy, especially in the fields of wind power, solar power and hydropower. For example, our subsidiary UPC Asia Wind Management is actively developing wind power projects. This year we also established a joint venture with partner ACC to develop solar energy business. .

In addition, including other low-carbon energy sources such as nuclear power. After the Taishan nuclear power plant project is put into operation, the revenue of France Power in China will be greatly improved.

France Power continues to consolidate its development strategy with a low carbon transformation. In June, French Prime Minister Philippe signed a new cooperation agreement with Datang Group on the occasion of French visit to China. The two sides will jointly develop renewable energy in China and Europe. Business, in the field of energy services, has also reached new cooperation projects.

In the context of China's energy transformation, we look forward to the joint exploration of mutually beneficial and win-win project models. In the future, we will strengthen cooperation with Chinese companies in the international market. Nuclear power is definitely an important area, and there is also a renewable energy field. Countries along the 'Belt and Road' may also become a new market for deepening cooperation between the two sides.